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Can I use the energies of the transcendental outer planets?

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==== Uranus, Pluto, Neptune ====

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High Priest Hooded Cobra 666

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[I changed the article's title because this has to do with overdrive and artificial increasing of said energies, and not necessarily the energies on their own being bad. It also has additional info now compared to before and it's clearer. Apologies for any inconveniences.]

Many people do not have any serious spiritual knowledge, but many of these people write books. This is typical in all the occult literature of today. People speculate, they don't really 'know' what lies beyond the fences they instruct other people to go.

In this life, everything is dominated by cause and effect. One causes a cause and one will get an effect.

In this world, there are doors where if one crosses, one can never return, or be saved. If you jump from a tall building, gravity will not spare you. The fact the Gods may be superior to such laws doesn't mean you are, and it doesn't mean they will use their superiority to serve you and or help your own stupidity.

Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are energies which are 'beyond' of the spectrum of the 7 chakras. They are 'thinner types of influences. So people like occultists who tell people to use these or increase them in the soul, this is dangerous. There is actually no logical influence over such forces, and programming them to act in a 'positive way' isn't going to do much help most of the time. These forces extend beyond the personality or the person, but they affect them.

Gifts from such planets arise from the following: the 7 planets, the degrees, and the houses they are present. The gifts that are bestowed by such are based on the houses and the relation of the said planets with the 7 chakra system or what one controls. In other words such forces from these 3 planets pulled through a dysfunctional lenses can cause disasters.

Due to the nature of these energies, one has to think likewise in a transcendental mindset. For example, to get in higher spiritual levels, you do not use artillery to bring down a door, you use a proper key to a door. In the same way, increasing these energies may not have the desired results.

One a positive note, Neptune rules spiritual perception, but on the negative side, it deals with delusions. Neptune deals with the ability to perceive, but other planets such as Moon (your feelings) and Mercury (your logic), or the lower chakras which deal with the gut feelings, deal with discerning such information. This is why some people who are crazy or have lost their balance, they can SEE things, but that doesn't mean these are true, or that they are in anyway useful. It's clear that increasing such energy artificially with meditation can have bad backlashes. If one didn't have delusions prior, it can generate them, and if one had, it can enlarge them. It will not necessarily make them see, unless their eyes of understanding are working.

Pluto can create intensity for better or for worse. Artificial increase of the very raw energy

Uranus, Neptune and Pluto in prediction also deal with things that can forcibly come from 3rd parties. Of which the native can have minimum control over. A lot of people who are enslaved are enslaved by the grace of Pluto, and a lot of people who explode to pieces by bombs, this is done by the grace of Uranus. All sorts of things like nuclear power, unrecognized mental diseases, and full throttle clinical insanity also related to the above planets.

These planets have a good side to them, in the same way a nuke that doesn't get shot has a good side to it. Arguably it can have none as we can see as even a latent nuke can go wrong. And the backlashes that can come from such can be so high and devastating that sometimes mingling around with such things defeats the purpose of 'improving' all together. So that's a silly excuse some people tell themselves when they develop such things because they WISH these turn out fine.

Uranus is an example here of how these planets operate, however, the manifestations of social Uraniuan energy are largely imprinted by the will of the Gods in many ways. So we have things such as the Internet, a Satanic manifestation that is truly groundbreaking, or the discovery of the electric current. The internet however, is on the bullseye from the enemy to be turned into the means through which they enslave a whole planet into a global soviet plantation.

Many people would of course be willing to go into a black hole, or try to touch the surface of the Sun. Actually there is a story about this, the story of Daedalus and Icarus. Daedalus and Icarus were trapped in a labyrinth, not knowing where to go. So they created wings of wax to move away from the labyrinth. Daedalus being an engineer warned Icarus that if he flew too high and close to the sun with the wings, they would melt.

Icarus of course was a young brat, too fed up with the worlds problems (The labyrinth) so he decided to of course go towards the Sun. He exploited his so called "Freedom" and responsibility to the responsible.

His father Daedalus gave responsibility to the irresponsible, in an attempt to save them from what he perceived were woes. He didn't want his son trapped there either. But as wise of an engineer he was, he wasn't very wise in general. In traditional myths, the labyrinths symbolize the maze from where one has to go in order to mature and grow. They are not literal entrapments. In many stories the story is the prince goes through the maze to find finally the princess. And the prince grows wise during this pursuit so he can learn to value her.

The Maze also is symbolic of solving the mysteries of the soul, and making it into a sole unit. As we have the Minotaur which when slained in the labyrinth the hero gets free. In other words one doesn't have to fly to the sun but seek the internal sun through solving the maze.

Yet, some people think they can fly over the labyrinth, this happens when people think there are always 'quick' solutions to everything, such as trying bypass and hack everything instead of learning about it. And believe the ultimate proof is not to find the princess but to prove they can fly to the sun. Which is past the reason anyway. This in the myth is symbolic of deception. The sun has light, but going too close to it won't enlighten someone, it will burn them.

Increasing and or decreasing such energies artificially by invocation, magick etc, can come with dire consequences of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, not only unforeseen, but beyond any expectation. Traditional occultists such as Franz Bardon and many other new agers have this practice, because they believe such energies will simply 'do well' to the, stemming from the belief that the universal energies always act in 'good will' to advance someone.

In jewish kabbalistic books there are also instructions to inhale Neptune's energy to the head, which obviously, if done frequently (and for some people at all) it can contribute to insanity. The jews are a deluded people and that's a fact, and also, many of them have a lot of mental diseases. Not ADHD and simple stuff that doesn't even exist, but way worse. The practices they do can also contribute to such. The jews are by far the most delusional people on earth. The sad part is that many spiritually ignorant people also went abroad in their own BS.

The Uranus, Neptune and Pluto do not exactly relate to astrology as the 7 traditional planets do. This is because they are not associated with a chakra on the 7 chakra system. Which is the realm of what is within human control. This in simpler words means that these energies being represented as 'planets' are somehow fallacious, and how these affect life is scarcely understood by all occultists out there.

Some examples of using such energies would be like this. One uses Pluto's energy to get money for example. One can become so fixated to get money, that they disregard anything and anything. One can result to murder, viciousness, or in other scenarios, end up as a permanent slave of someone rich, or debts, all under Pluto. Someone may grow illnesses that get him financial compensation. In the case of Uranus, a car runs them over, they win their 'compensation', but they remain paralyzed for life. This is why a basic rule for such is to be extremely accurate in what you mean in magick in general. As far as humanly controllable forces are at work. When there are not nobody can really guarantee anything.

If one seeks extremely refined, powerful, but also humanly controllable forces (Well not all of them, some are beyond, but they are still 'safe' to use), one needs to look deeper on the Runes instead. Past the 13th rune, the next runes, are "exocosmic" runes, and they deal with grand spiritual concepts. Some runes have all the energies of Uranus, Pluto, and Neptune, without triggering the destructive effects of the raw planetary energy. This people can find on their own study and when they grow into an affinity with Runes. An instance here is the rune Dagaz which helps facilitate true spiritual wisdom. No simple raw energy can do this. The runes are based on complex constellations and were given to humanity by the Gods.

Also, the awareness of how these affect people is also lacking in regards to usage of Uranus Neptune and Pluto. Most such influences have social manifestations, mostly. Such as their categorization and claimed astrological influences are lacking to get indepth with this clearly because there isn't much understanding about such forces.

Spiritually speaking, one slight thing people need to also be aware of: The "name" of a God doesn't necessarily imply always a connection to the body in the sky. For example some people state that Indra is good, therefore, Uranus must also be good for humanity as an energy since Indra relates to Uranus. However, Uranus is a code word to convey something else other than the sole body in the sky in internal spiritual alchemy. It's symbolic of the bioelectricity. Not the planet in the sky necessarily. The symbolism of Indra is also the properly used bioelectricity, let's say, a rectified version of Uranus, similar, but good for man.

So the appropriate energy of "Uranus" ruling positive change, enlightenment, and uprising in extreme levels of potential, would be Zeus's thunderbolt (or Indra's, for that liking), not the Uranus "God" or the sky body, but the proper use of the bioelectricity and Vril. Zeus and Indra hold the thunderbolt. This shows they are human beings with a mind controlling the force.

People obviously find these forces 'cool'. Pluto, Uranus, and even Neptune are very enticing planets. Or basically, we feel enticed by the properties ascribed to these planets. But they may not necessarily be 'human respecting' forces in their raw form. Many other stars in the universe look beautiful, even enticing. One of these stars is Unukalhai, which can bring deaths is it appears in some places in the chart.

Their effects on people are most of the time minimal compared to what these do on living creatures in a shared manner. Such as world revolutions. But if one increases their portion as a person, it can be unpredictable. In the same way, to affect these energies, one may do "their" part right, but the "shared" influence of such energy may still manifest in random generated ways.

Freedom and getting what you want, only matter insofar you know what you are doing. Many people if they got what they 'wanted' they would simply be dead meat from their 'wants' and desires. Many people desire to be drugged out rockstars, for example. Basically because simply people always think about getting something but now what it will take or what needs to be sacrificed in order to have it. And never take time to think if their desires are swindling them out of their freedom or life.

Humans are like worms in that regard, in that their 'wants' can be bottomless as a sewer, and therefore, they can drain them in.

When we increase our personal power, we have to be careful what we wish, and what we desire and actively draw in our lives. Because the energies WILL manifest. In the case of planets like Uranus, Pluto and Neptune, it wouldn't be an understatement to say that the effect can find someone many hundreds of years later, in unpredictable ways.

What one 'wants' is important insofar it actually has to do with their advancement, in a balanced manner.

Do not be like these 'people', be wiser.