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Vedic Vs tropical astrology, which one is the correct one? | |||
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HPS Lydia | |||
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https://ancient-forums.com/index.php?threads/vedic-vs-tropical-astrology.21012/#post-91013 | |||
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You will have to search the yahoo astrology group, not this forum that has only been up for a few years. I wrote some posts but those were in the previous forum. | |||
Basically, transits alone prove western Tropical is the chart that works. Saturn entering a house, hitting a planet, same with the other outer planets. Transiting Pluto, when it aspects a planet, and the house ruled by that planet, the sign will be wrong in sidereal. | |||
For natal charts, planets on fixed stars, planets on negative degrees, these are not the same in Sidereal. Same with Solar returns. People physically look and act like their AC, the AC based on tropical western. And people are very much the representation of their chart rulers and any stellium. Planets on negative degree, the house they rule, there will be misfortune to one extent or another. | |||
I get a real good laugh when looking at my vedic sidereal chart, it gives me a grand trine plus more planets in an element which I am most certainly lowest in, and only 1 planet in my main element. My AC in sidereal has nothing to do with me in real life, I look and act nothing like it. As well, I have some very significant things about me which are only based on certain planets on fixed stars, these would not factor in with sidereal/vedic. | |||
'''Any competent astrologer can disprove sidereal, based on transits and natal chart, and a real, honest look at one's personality, habits, flaws, problems, misfortunes, talents, skills.''' | |||
(I know I replied to your email with some of this, but I'm also posting this for other members) | |||
This is one post by HPS Maxine, I can't link it as it's from a pdf of her posts in the yahoo astro group: | |||
"I know all about both systems and have worked with both systems. I have been an astrologer for close to 40 years. I am a professional and I will tell you, the Vedic/Sidereal for whatever reason is not accurate. I use the tropical. Certain aspects of Vedic astrology are helpful, such as the nature of the planet is more important than the nature of the aspects. For example, squares and oppositionsfrom jupiter are usually of a beneficial nature, especially with transiting planets, solar returns and such, while trines from saturn can be a down time. | |||
Firestarter is correct as far as I am concerned. In order to do a competent astrology reading, one must use one's psychic abilities, along with the information given on the planets. This is because no two charts are exactly the same. The astrological chart is a map of the soul and is as individual as one's fingerprints. Two people can have the exact same aspects, but given the affairs of the houses ruled by the planets, and the other aspects and planetary placements, that same aspect will manifest differently in the two charts. In addition, psychic energy must be used in determining how a certain chart pattern or configuration will manifest in one's life. | |||
Science has not progressed far enough [because of xianity and its ilk], to where it can explain the spiritual. Kirian photography for one can photograph the aura, but the chakras still cannot be seen. Science is making great strides in deciphering thoughts and with this, may soon be able to see the energy centers of the soul, but given the jews dominate this field, much of what is given to the public has been corrupted, especially in the way of anything spiritual. | |||
I know all about the equinoxes and the synetic vernal point, and the sidereal aspects of astrology and as I already wrote, I have studied both systems and have found the sidereal system to be seriously flawed when doing plenty of research. The characteristics of the planets in the signs and other given information of the vedic system does not fit me or the many others I have studied. | |||
This has been my own experience. I also came across a woman in an occult bookstore who did not like the sidereal vedic system and told me of an astrologer who read for her who used this system, who was not only "way off‟ in predicitons, but the entire reading was flawed." |
Revision as of 20:14, 13 April 2024
Category:
Astrology
Question:
Vedic Vs tropical astrology, which one is the correct one?
Author:
HPS Lydia
URL:
https://ancient-forums.com/index.php?threads/vedic-vs-tropical-astrology.21012/#post-91013
Content:
You will have to search the yahoo astrology group, not this forum that has only been up for a few years. I wrote some posts but those were in the previous forum.
Basically, transits alone prove western Tropical is the chart that works. Saturn entering a house, hitting a planet, same with the other outer planets. Transiting Pluto, when it aspects a planet, and the house ruled by that planet, the sign will be wrong in sidereal.
For natal charts, planets on fixed stars, planets on negative degrees, these are not the same in Sidereal. Same with Solar returns. People physically look and act like their AC, the AC based on tropical western. And people are very much the representation of their chart rulers and any stellium. Planets on negative degree, the house they rule, there will be misfortune to one extent or another.
I get a real good laugh when looking at my vedic sidereal chart, it gives me a grand trine plus more planets in an element which I am most certainly lowest in, and only 1 planet in my main element. My AC in sidereal has nothing to do with me in real life, I look and act nothing like it. As well, I have some very significant things about me which are only based on certain planets on fixed stars, these would not factor in with sidereal/vedic.
Any competent astrologer can disprove sidereal, based on transits and natal chart, and a real, honest look at one's personality, habits, flaws, problems, misfortunes, talents, skills.
(I know I replied to your email with some of this, but I'm also posting this for other members)
This is one post by HPS Maxine, I can't link it as it's from a pdf of her posts in the yahoo astro group:
"I know all about both systems and have worked with both systems. I have been an astrologer for close to 40 years. I am a professional and I will tell you, the Vedic/Sidereal for whatever reason is not accurate. I use the tropical. Certain aspects of Vedic astrology are helpful, such as the nature of the planet is more important than the nature of the aspects. For example, squares and oppositionsfrom jupiter are usually of a beneficial nature, especially with transiting planets, solar returns and such, while trines from saturn can be a down time.
Firestarter is correct as far as I am concerned. In order to do a competent astrology reading, one must use one's psychic abilities, along with the information given on the planets. This is because no two charts are exactly the same. The astrological chart is a map of the soul and is as individual as one's fingerprints. Two people can have the exact same aspects, but given the affairs of the houses ruled by the planets, and the other aspects and planetary placements, that same aspect will manifest differently in the two charts. In addition, psychic energy must be used in determining how a certain chart pattern or configuration will manifest in one's life.
Science has not progressed far enough [because of xianity and its ilk], to where it can explain the spiritual. Kirian photography for one can photograph the aura, but the chakras still cannot be seen. Science is making great strides in deciphering thoughts and with this, may soon be able to see the energy centers of the soul, but given the jews dominate this field, much of what is given to the public has been corrupted, especially in the way of anything spiritual.
I know all about the equinoxes and the synetic vernal point, and the sidereal aspects of astrology and as I already wrote, I have studied both systems and have found the sidereal system to be seriously flawed when doing plenty of research. The characteristics of the planets in the signs and other given information of the vedic system does not fit me or the many others I have studied.
This has been my own experience. I also came across a woman in an occult bookstore who did not like the sidereal vedic system and told me of an astrologer who read for her who used this system, who was not only "way off‟ in predicitons, but the entire reading was flawed."