Omni:Is Saturn always negative?
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Astrology
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Is Saturn always Negative?
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The Wisdom Of Saturn
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High Priest Hooded Cobra 666
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Everytime I read online some bullshit on Icke forums and so on, Saturn is blamed as the ultimate detriment and destroyer. Astrology is also infested with this garbage and the undertones of xianity that want Saturn and Satan to be somehow identical and therefore "Evil".
Saturn is also related to Satan in this bullshit arguing they do.
This is just bullshit only fit for distorted brains, manchildren, and of course jews who preach damning advice to the goyim so that they kill themselves by ignoring this all important force of nature. I'm not going to do that. I don't care what people say about Saturn or what they believe.
Indeed also, I have found, advancing in Satanism, can be a craft of mastering alongside anything else, Saturn. It is to make this dangerous mad dog called Saturn into a friendlier and more tame guardian dog that will guard your house against all intruders.
Going around your life whining about Saturn is like going on your neighborhood where there are bulldogs on steroids going out and hungry for 1 month, and going through and trying to lecture them that they are evil. It won't work. Saturn doesn't care if you think he's evil kaneevil or not.
Of course, sissies and other forms of weak life do constantly complain about Saturn, instead of trying to understand, confront, and win against this energy. Therefore Saturn is like a Devil to them, from which they run scared.
This is actually why this world is also fucked by Saturn energy. Because not only it's being channeled by hostile forces, but also people refuse to deal with it in anyway, and shove their head in their ass while everyone refuses to encounter it. This is the wrong way to deal with Saturn.
Another wrong way to deal with Saturn, is to dwell too deeply in it. This way, you'll be consumed by the restrictive force that it represents, and probably suckered into the depressive and damning aspects of it. One has to learn in due time that neither of these extremes is good.
Another complaint of these uninformed individuals is that Saturn causes death and ageing. Saturn is this thing that you can only evade after confronting it, and after understanding how it happens. It's like a very strong type of gravity. Once understood, you can make an airplane, but you can't fly. But you can fly with an airplane.
Like all energies, Saturn requires a fine balance for every person. What many idiots who accuse Saturn of ageing and death don't understand is, is that death is another half of life.
Saturn also grows over sustained growth that is limited to what we refer to as "healthy". Generation and growth happens because of a Saturnian pattern of "Ageing". We go from a little seed to full human being.
Death and old age happens not because of "Saturn" exclusively, but because the generative force falls below that of the ageing. Where it was supposed to stay in a balance and therefore the physical body would not age dangerously, it's tipped off and overpowers the generative force. Eventually death follows.
More balanced forms of these energy, cause what we refer to as "Graceful ageing". Many people do have this aspect in their charts or it can be a result of meditation. So Saturn doesn't really cause "death" on his own, nor is this force purposefully evil. It's an integral part of nature.
To put it simply, death happens because more life doesn't happen.
The correlation between Satan and Saturn, except of the stupidity of that it sounds the same in the language of English [and in no other spiritual language] is that the Serpent [Satan] exists in the Base Chakra.
Like a seed for the person, it rests asleep in the Saturnian base chakra. If it remains there asleep, one cannot benefit from it. The only evil here however, is that people do not meditate, and therefore this seed remains without water. Still, the fact that the Serpent rests of Saturn's Base chakra is revealing.
In inner knowledge, the Saturn should be seen as the soil in which a seed of life lives. But it needs water [meditation] to bloom.
Returning back to the more outwardly forces of Saturn, things are different.
Saturn is also this asshole that nobody wants to hear that whispers in the ears of people what they need to do. "Fuck off" is the reply of most people to Saturn. Saturn can indeed be this depressive shit nobody wants to hear about.
You know, some of the very typical shit caring parents tell their kids which oftentimes they reply to like "Fuck you" and return 10 years later to say "Mom and Dad were right". Like wash your teeth. Yeah fuck off I won't wash the teeth dad, I know better. 10 years later, enjoy going to heavy debt over all the teeth.
When people have these thoughts, oftentimes in our world, they call themselves "Depressed". The "Depression" did not arise from these thoughts, but from their own repetitive ignorance of doing something about them. The thoughts themselves are NOT evil, but they are here to help and show someone they need to change. When these are ignored, the mind goes into a depressive state because it understands one is not doing good.
Not saying this is ALWAYS the cause of depression, but it is, quite often.
For those who are past the age of babies, please read below. You'll receive good understanding about Saturn.
Satanists are not to believe in any of this because we know better. We have to look past than what people do in general. There are Saturn placements in astrology that can save one from delusions, disaster, destruction. Saturn can also in astrology act as a protector.
Most people's problem with Saturn is that Saturn teaches in a brutal way. However, Saturn also can bestow excessive rewards to people who are grounded, well organized, and are consistent with natural cycles and energy.
Everything in the physical realm is subject to life and death. Of course, humans hate old age and death. However, when one knows about death, this can be used in a way that enhances one's life. When one knows a necessary winter for nature is coming, one can prepare the stocking up of food.
Saturn, unlike other planets, can show great signs before calamity to people who have open eyes. One aspect here would be one's teeth or obesity. Generally, before Saturn goes on fallout, there can be signs. Other negative influences can crop up out of nowhere.
Those who know, will live and even improve through Saturnian trials. Saturn also deals with the principle of self determination, self responsibility, leadership, and many other hated things in present day's crazed world.
Increasingly there is also complete and total lack of responsibility, duty, and other values which are giving in to the rift of damnation, creating in their image a shitty and abuse based world. This is unrefined energy of Saturn or absence of it. Both are disastrous for human life.
People today run from self knowledge, responsibility, improving and so on. Because it can be unpleasant. Reality is to improve is the most beautiful feeling on the whole universe and the reason of being for humans.
The recent motto of this world is that everything should be about happiness, and that humans have to live in perpetual ignorance and only focus on being happy. Therefore anything that comes to tell us unpleasant news, most people block out.
In the case of happiness, a bad Neptune would be like "Sure, take fake drugs and try to be happy". Saturn would be like "Maybe it's time to address some of your inner personal issues first?". Clearly the second path can be more helpful.
The patronizing force is seen as negative in this world because everyone wants a false sense of freedom that they don't have. We are no longer in a world where people are forced to do things people think, but everyone lives like a prisoner regardless.
Saturn sets limits where one can also fall off, but can also create limits that impede one from growing. The second can be something one has to fight against. The first is what one has to learn.
The smart way to go is not to abolish limits. When one drives on a mountain road, you better wish there is a stopping bar if it snows, or you might go off the cliffs. Likewise, limitations are equally important to life as freedom is. Freedom without the capacity of limitation is not freedom because you can't stop yourself.
A case of a lack of Saturn being fatal, can be a case of a very rich person who eats 24/7 until they die of a heart attack. While they may go down eating great delicacies, the obesity can be the same problem. Saturn didn't exist in life to stop them. Now they're dead.
Two cases of Saturn manifesting in this life of this man would be these: people in their workplace calling them fat. This would be a negative manifestation, and a painful one. But it still retains the message that one may die.
A medium manifestation of Saturnian energy, is that when they get a minor heart attack, they go to the doctor, and the doctor tells them, you have 6 months to live down this alley, please stop.
A strong Saturn manifestation would be them almost dying and then understanding their mistake of overeating could be fatal.
A total negligence of Saturn in any of the above can lead to self damnation. The same damnation can also happen by overflow of other energies which are generally considered "Beneficial" or positive.
If the person in question had a little Saturn to begin with, and stopped overeating, or they listened to the cries of their body earlier on, outwardly Saturn's influence would be less in their life. Saturn is a difficult energy to master, but people definitely CAN do that.
Saturn's transits can be terrifying, destructive, and even bring extreme calamities. But they can be also these times where you're forced to sit down and assess where things are going with you, to save yourself from even more damage on the future.
However, the more one has accommodated themselves to the protective aspects of Saturn, these will affect them less. Saturn comes to destroy whatever hasn't been built firmly. This is sort of like keeping debts in check and in control. The longer postponed, the worse when the bill comes.
Determination, discipline, and strength of will, can turn the energies of Saturn around, and can make some of the strongest individuals on earth. Due to excessive pressure, not everyone can do this. Heavy Saturnians can either achieve a lot in life, or nothing. Force can be strong on someone to do better and to succeed.
But they will be pressured so it's up to them how to deal and organize this pressure. A lot of them are in positions of power worldwide and very difficult to move away because of this.
Saturn also has a lot of "respect" for individuals who meditate. Meditation works to counter balance the negativity of Saturn, provided it's done within the balanced context of a balance life.
Saturn being like gravity, is not to be escaped by you trying to grow wings and fly. Saturn deals with practical solutions to problems in order to be overcome. For example, people climb a mountain or make an airplane, instead of trying to grow wings which is not going to happen.
Meditation in the Satanic way, brings the mind closer to Satyan or the concept of Truth. This creates observation better. It dispels illusions over time when done properly and with grounding. This saves people from disaster as certainly as a good pair of eyes with 20/20 vision can see danger coming from far away.
Saturn in meditation deals with understanding of the physical realm, the capacity to clarify things for one's self, and one's self awareness. All are important for one's spiritual advancement.
Lastly I have written additional things about Saturn below: [1]
